0:00 Introduction
0:12 What is the difference between physical matter and the mental matter?
3:28 The real truth of spirituality
6:22 The mirror between the relative and the absolute
9:57 What is right action?
14:00 How to overcome extreme anger
17:55 Spirit guides, ghosts etc – are they distractions from spirituality?
19:43 Strong electric sensation in the body during meditation
21:38 Should we fight our mental disturbances?
23:30 How to overcome difficulty with the meditation technique
28:55 Can action without expectations act as a meditation?
31:20 Can ‘mediums’ communicate to people on the other side?
32:31 What is the source of thought?
33:42 Is there a causal connection with thought? What makes it arise?
35:02 Practicing acceptance when being active in the world
36:12 How to overcome emotions of sadness, grief and loss
39:26 Does thinking of world peace bring you further into illusion?
41:53 How to manifest positive imaginations
43:46 What happens after we die?
47:00 The attitudes that are carried from life to life

Thus Spake Babaji – online Q&A, No. 61

Recorded on 1 August 2021 with US Participants

Questioner:

First one is, there’s physical matter, gross physical matter that we experience in this world and then there’s kind of a mental matter. And the things in the mind, they can seem just as solid and real as the physical matter. What’s the difference between the physical matter and the mental matter, and then is it ultimately all just different forms of consciousness, different solidity of consciousness?

Babaji:

Yeah, so different forms of the mind’s manifested projections, or the consciousness in other words, is the real truth actually. The things that would appear as very solid like this Universe, solid matter, would appear very realistic and solid. Because the way that every individual is seeing is through that matter which is also a part of that dream. So that’s why it appears to be truth. Like, for example this physical body. Through this physical body when you see, considering yourself as the physical body, that means you have become one with the dream. So that’s why it appears truth. 

Like in the mind also, in the night time when you go to sleep, and then you dream. That is also the same, the potency and dimensions are slightly different. But as long as you are dreaming, it would appear, the dream would appear as totally solid and realistic, and you also experience yourself as if you are a part, playing a role in that dream. 

But then you are watching also.  That’s what the important thing, where you have to focus now. Instead of allowing the mind to get focused onto the imagined matter, if it can focus onto – the one who is watching – then the truth gets revealed, that it’s only an illusion. Means, an imagined substance which does not have any existence value. That’s how I would like to put it.

Same Questioner:

Existence value means it is something that doesn’t last, it’s temporary?

Babaji:

Yes, that’s one of the definitions. Another is it really doesn’t exist, though it would appear as solid and perfect and everything, it really doesn’t exist. Just like the dreaming is true, but the things that appear in the dream are not true.

Same Questioner:

So spiritual life, spirituality, is it primarily about knowing the knower, or the consciousness of existence?

Babaji:

Yeah, in a way we can put it like that.

Same Questioner:

Because it seems a lot of people when they start out, they say they’re spiritual but they’re imagining, they’re maybe having astral projection experiences where they’re flying around in space, and going to other worlds and places. And then maybe later somebody’s having experiences that they are the space and all these things are appearing in their mind or in their space. And then maybe all the objects in this mental space, they vanish and there’s only just the consciousness of existence. And then now you say that beyond that is just the Parabrahman. So these are all different ideas of what people think of as spiritual pursuits. But most of those are just really neat experiences.

Babaji:

Any such experiences are simply mental projections, mind’s creative imaginations. That’s why we tell, “we have to discard every terminology”. Like when you sit for meditation, when we ask you just to watch,  means you have to watch so that all the matter disappears, dissolves, which are in the form of a thought or a vision – has to disappear. When they disappear, it is the space that appears.

However, I would advise, forget the terminologies of space, blank, dark, nothing, or something – all terminologies, anything is simply an imagination – nothing is conclusively the truth. Just to become quiet, just become quiet, and what remains is the only clue is the ‘consciousness of existence’, that is the only truth which is not an imagination. The rest is all imagination. Any out of body experience, going in the space, traveling in these things, going to different lokas, everything is all simply illusions, the Master teaches.

Same Questioner:

Okay, thank you Baba. The other question is about the mirror analogy. You know how there’s a mirror that reflects, it’s kind of in-between the relative and the Absolute, and it reflects both somehow.

Babaji:

Yeah, the figure in the mirror reflects the illusion that has been imagined. That which it doesn’t reflect is also there in the mirror. That is the truth.

Same Questioner:

That which it doesn’t reflect is also in the mirror… Is that the mirror with nothing in it then, no reflection?

Babaji:

Yes, but that nothing is an imagination, what you are thinking as nothing is the actual Reality – Truth.

Same Questioner:

So for there to be any knowing of the Ultimate Reality or any recognition at all of the Supreme Truth, does the mirror have to be there?

Babaji:

Not necessary. Because when the mirror is not reflecting anything, when there is nothing as you said, so even if the mirror is removed that nothingness is there. You will see that. That is the space. 

So like for example, we take the space now, though I have asked everyone not to imagine the space as space with your own criteria. But now, space is All-Pervaded. You can remove any matter, depending on the power that you possess. 

Like, Earth is there. Just now for your physical body Earth is enormously strong, impossible to touch or move the Earth by hands. But if you ever grow more powerful than the Earth you might be able to take the earth like this [cupping and raising His hands, as if lifting the Earth] in your hands and remove. Like that, every matter, when you become more powerful than that particular matter, you can take it out and remove. A small glass you can take it and remove, a suitcase you can take it and remove – but try to take the space and remove it. 

See, watch my hands [cupping and raising His Hands], I’m lifting the space, I am removing it – but it is there also [pointing His finger at another area]. So actually, I did not remove anything. [chuckling] Like that. 

When the mirror is also removed, the non-reflected, that Truth is there. So a mirror is not necessary, mirror is needed only to see the illusion’s reflection.

Same Questioner:

So for knowledge you need the mirror.

Babaji:

That’s it.

Same Questioner:

So another way that you say that is you can stop all thoughts but you can’t make yourself disappear.

Babaji:

Yes, exactly, that’s what I keep telling. Like I tell, amongst the millions of thoughts you have one thing, that is the ‘consciousness of existence’ which is a reality. So you can make everything else disappear, you cannot yourself disappear.

Same Questioner:

Baba, there’s right action. What is right action? If everything’s interconnected and affecting every other thing, only in our ignorance we don’t see the connection, then how could the intellect ever determine what is right, if something I do is affecting the whole Universe or something? Are there some general guidelines? Or eventually do you, as you become more self-aware, do you become spontaneously performing right action, just automatically?

Babaji:

Some clues, some guidance to begin with. First try to ponder what you are looking for really – what is the root base. If you look like that, slowly one day you will realize you are looking for actually peace or happiness. 

You want a thing – then when you possess, then when you get that, temporarily you will feel very happy, “Oh, I got this, oh excited.” All these things give enjoyment. But then finally you analyze, it was the happiness you actually wanted. For that you wanted to have this matter so that it can give you happiness. So now you think, “If I am looking for the happiness, what is the highest happiness above which there must not be any other happiness?” 

Like in this world, it’s like a market product. Everybody can claim their own things are the best which can give you the best, everything, every matter, everything is claimed. But you must try to go for that after which nobody can claim anything else. That is the highest Supreme Peace. 

How can that Supreme Peace come? 

When it is always there, all the twelve months, twenty-four hours. And no power, no substance of the creation should be able to disturb that peace. So that is the Highest Peace. When it is totally secure. You achieve that Peace and it is totally secure, nothing can disturb you, no nuclear bomb or no country, no army, no power, no magician, no powerful person, no God, nothing, nothing can disturb that peace once you get that peace. That only can give you contentment. 

So like this, this is how you shall discriminate and try to go for the highest always. 

So why compromise? You know sometimes when we were young, we used to imagine, “Oh, we are flying in the air, and we are building a big mansion”, then suddenly I used to think, “If at all I have to imagine, why not imagine the highest? And what is that highest?” I used to keep wondering again, “If at all I am simply in the imagination, why should I be stingy just to imagine a small mountain, or a small helicopter? Let there be.” So then this thing occurred, “It should be the contentment. Contentment is what is elusive to humanity. So I must have the contentment. If at all anybody can give me contentment, aah that’s the magic, really.” So like that. 

These are some of the guidelines which I used to have as a young boy or in the teenage time.

Same Questioner:

Thank you, Baba. Take some questions.

Questioner:

Hi, Babaji. In a moment of anger, for example especially with family members because they are so close to us and they know how to push your buttons and get us really worked up. So when I’m really angry and I can’t really go to my room and sit and because I just feel like I’m steaming with anger, how would you suggest that we overcome that? 

Babaji:

You see, if every day you sit for one hour meditation and just follow the instructions that was given how to meditate, right? That is important – just watching in-between eyebrows. This will strengthen your willpower, slowly and slowly it will strengthen. 

Then when, as you were talking in the spur of the moment when the anger comes and you are unable to manage or go into a room and sit down, that much of time is not there, and you might react or something might happen sometime, so all these things you will be able to handle by restraining yourself. 

You need to have a control over the mind. It is the mind which takes shape of such a thing, when it is hurt, or a ego is hurt, or when it starts thinking whatever it wanted if it doesn’t happen – these are some of the reasons when we are likely to lose temper. We want somebody to do something, if that somebody doesn’t do something then we might lose temper, or if somebody accuses unnecessarily, if our ego hurts, then we might get into such anger. 

So, all this results in a casualty of your own mind’s energy. That energy takes shape, and afterwards it may regret also sometime if we act very rudely with somebody, sometimes violently also, then after that we might realize. So for that the best only remedy is the practice of meditation every day for one hour. And when the anger comes also, try, try if possible to remember some personality, like if you believe in a Guru who teaches you meditation, try to remember such personalities, try to remember their name, try to pray something. 

It all happens in some moments actually. Within that moment we are likely to act upon and do wrong things. In the few moments if we can divert the attention or try to control ourself, then you will cool down, then you will start thinking, once you start reasoning and thinking, totally mind will cool down. 

Anger is needed only in the battlefield when you are defending a larger cause. And sometimes if you are an administrator, if you need to do administrative work. At such time also, if you exercise only a little bit of anger while you are able to keep yourself under control, you don’t cross the boundaries and become too violent unnecessarily. You may need to pull up somebody, you may need to scold somebody, little bit you do and then withdraw yourself. 

You see like we Yogi’s also, say we have disciples, we have students, we have somebody, sometimes I have to exercise a little bit of anger, otherwise they might take me granted and sit on my head, so I have to do a little bit hissing type of thing. But I keep myself totally under control, just a little bit that needs to be pulled up. 

So like this, you can practice and do everything.

Same Questioner:

Thank you, Babaji, I have one more question. 

Babaji:

Okay.

Same questioner:

In the US, I mean maybe other places as well, there are ‘new age’ spiritual people who talk about spiritual guides, spirits, and, I don’t know, like ghosts. Just in general I just wonder what Your thoughts are on that topic, and should we just avoid it?

Babaji:

It’s not actually spirituality. It has nothing to do with spirituality, they are all the imagined, just to create curiosity, attract people. And it will deviate the attention totally, it will deviate the path, you won’t go to the truth, such people. Truth is totally different.

Same Questioner:

But like, for example, pregnant women may sometimes have this connection, or like communication with their unborn children, would that be considered as a distraction as well? Like where do we draw the line?

Babaji.

Yeah. All these things are distraction and one’s own imaginations it creates. There cannot be any such connection, and it must be avoided – they can be very distracting and obstacles on the path of spirituality particularly. Also it won’t give any peace or any such thing. 

Instead, it’s better to pray to Divinity that is All-Pervaded, if needed for sake of any child or any departed soul, any such thing happens. So instead of trying to get in touch, they are all obstacles. I would not advocate any such thing on the path of spirituality. 

Same Questioner:

Thank you, Babaji.

Babaji:

My blessings.

Questioner:

Pranam Babaji. I had a question, today when I was just meditating I had this sensation of being struck by strong electric sensation and the body just froze. And then there was a rising of fear. So was this again a projection of fear from the mind, or is it something that can happen during the process?

Babaji:

Yeah, when you are trying to meditate, actually mind does not want to die. Die means here it doesn’t want to give up the imagination of this world and go to the reverse journey of going back to the Self. So that’s why it tries to jump, it tries to create all these obstacles which can give rise to more such thoughts. So mind wants to be alive means it wants more imagination be created, more thoughts and visions be created, then it indulges in all these things. 

So ignoring all this, you just try to focus your mind and sight [points in-between the eyebrows] and try to remain quiet and just watch. Even any such experience, just watch – it will dissolve and disappear. You’ll be alright.

Same Questioner:

And the appearance of any light during meditation, that is also like a distraction, or consciousness can manifest as light?

Babaji:

Yeah, if you try to analyze what it is then that becomes a distraction and an obstacle, it delays further progress. Because, you have to understand, we try to teach repeatedly – mind has to become silent – that is the primary priority thing that we need to achieve. Then only the mind can become Pure Consciousness and can turn to itself to realize about itself. That is what is needed. Blessings.

Questioner:

Baba, a lot of the questions are kind of asked, but I’m finding more and more that it’s like–I can give you analogies, like I’m in a sinking boat always pouring out the negative water. Or I feel like there are bugs, not really bugs, but like I’m always being bitten by my past lives and negativity. 

And it’s a real fight. I’m trying to be aware and I say no, no, you go away. I don’t want any of you. And then of course, they keep on recurring and you’re really alone. So the question is, I don’t know what the question is. But I guess that life is a real fight. That’s all it is, it’s constantly fighting. Is that true?

Babaji:

You see, my advice is, if you indulge in a fighting you are wasting your energy. If they are there, don’t talk to them. See if you try to talk to them, “No, I don’t want, you get away” means these get converted as thoughts and they become obstacles. Just ignore and keep going.

Just like, I will give you one example. You are walking on the street, somebody will try to tease you. If you also try to tease him,”Eh, no I don’t want you, you go away, go away, I’m going to hit you,” you are stopping, you are wasting your energy, you are creating another obstacle. Instead of that, if you simply keep going, going, ignoring that person whatever he’s saying, so that person will go away. 

Like that in meditation also, when you close the eyes also, any such thoughts come ignore them, continue trying to keep quiet, continue trying to keep quiet, continue to watch.

Same questioner:

Yeah, mmm-hmm.

Questioner:

I joined recently and I was attracted by this silencing the mind – as it is my mind is quite agitated. And before knowing You, whenever I was in circumstances where I had to meditate, what was asked to do, was like to be nothing, to want nothing, and to do nothing. So this is what I was used to be for. And so we were just asked to dissolve actually, not to do anything. But my mind was quite agitated. But still there was a feeling of being able to meditate a little bit. 

And since I’m trying to meditate as You are asking us to do, concentrating here, I feel that I cannot meditate anymore at all, because it’s like a constant effort coming back, coming back, coming back, coming back. I feel I have not one second without a thought, it’s much worse than before actually. But there is still this switch to be able to silence the mind. But at the moment I cannot concentrate, and it feels like it’s a battlefield. Can you help me with that?

Babaji:

Now, please pay attention and listen to me. First, the meditation that you were doing earlier, when they said do nothing, think nothing and nothing. That is the theory. Then the same thing that I teach from my Guru’s teachings is the technique that we give. These two things are different. 

Means, when I tell you, “don’t think” – but you would be wondering – how not to think when the thoughts are coming? So, then the technique is given: If you just watch [pointing in between His eyebrows] you will stop thinking eventually. This is the how the technique is given – but the substance is same – you have to become silent. So that’s what you have to understand. 

Now, other points. Mind has two aspects, one is it can think and it can watch. So now you have been given just to watch. While asking you to watch, we are not asking you to watch where – just in between eyebrows without imagining about anything. 

And now three mantras I always start is – dedication, discipline and patience. 

Dedicated means, though it is very difficult it is not impossible. So continue, never give up.

Discipline. Without fail every day at that time, practice, sit down for that duration of meditation, if possible one hour. Because thirty-forty minutes is a big struggle, we all know. Then maybe final five-ten minutes the mind cools down after struggling, struggling, hitting, hitting, hitting, it also becomes tired, “Oh, enough is enough type,” then it cools down, then the thoughts come down. 

Then the third one is the patience. Because mind has gone out of control since time immemorial. Overnight it may not come under control, we need to have patience. If today it has not come, no problem. Tomorrow, it has not come, no problem, continue. One day it will come. It will. So that is possible, you can achieve it. 

Just try to understand the technique, all you have to do is watch in between eyebrows. When thoughts come let them come, you don’t have to bother about them, you don’t have to do anything. If you simply watch [placing his index finger between eyebrows], eventually after some time when the mind gains more strength to watch, then slowly it gives up its thinking habits, then it won’t be holding on to the thoughts and visions that is coming. Then the thoughts will start dissolving, disappearing, or evaporating. This will definitely happen to you, keep on doing this, do not give up. 

We were taught in our childhood in the schools, always when you put an effort, till the last breath of life it is worthwhile to put it. So here in spirituality also, it is worthwhile to put an effort till the last breath. Even if anything happens to the body, in the next life it will continue from childhood itself, more vigorously, more strongly. So you don’t have to give up hope at all. It is possible. 

I will pray for you. You just continue with the technique.

Same Questioner:

Thank You, thank You Babaji.

Questioner:

Thank you very much Babaji for Your blessings and all that You do for us, so grateful. Yesterday’s question and answer session intrigued me, because it was brought up saying that you need twelve hours of meditation every day, and for twelve years, and then you see God Realization. 

What my question is, but we’re living in different times and different worlds. We have to be even working for our support, and keep body and soul together – no greed, no large expectations. But then, if we dedicate, as You said, dedicate what You have and what you’re doing to the Divine –  without any expectations, no results – but just do it. Would that also be a good substitute for the earlier tradition of twelve hours and twelve years?

Babaji:

Yes, it will definitely help you. Whatever you are doing you just continue. It will come. Don’t worry, God will help you, He will take care of your mind’s purification. So if you go on like this also without expectation, you just go on doing in what you believe, then your mind accepts – when it accepts it automatically recedes and becomes quiet, and quiet. 

When its expectations are not met, then it gets agitated and goes into such thoughts and thoughts. So if you don’t have any expectations – you accept it – then your mind will become quiet. That will get converted as a meditation.

Same Questioner:

And in fact I found following Your technique and just doing that has given such a great sense of contentment just in these few months that I’ve been so privileged to be on the Zoom meeting with you Babaji, so I want to acknowledge that.

Babaji:

Contentment is wonderful, always. When you are contented, the mind recedes. That’s what is needed.

Same Questioner:

Yeah, yeah, I make nothing, but I feel like a queen.

Babaji:

Wonderful, great.

Same Questioner:

And one more question. Some people talk to mediums, with people on the other side. Is that something that… not for me, but I heard somebody do that. And I don’t…

Babaji:

They are all illusions, their own illusions, there is nothing such thing. Only you and your God, that is the truth. You are the truth which exists, and you are connected to the Divinity that Exist. The rest are all mental projections, mind’s imagination, which will deviate and take you away from the truth and peace and contentment.

Same Questioner:

No, but medium people, medium to communicate with people who are on the other side, the departed ones, they try to get messages from people who died…

Babaji:

Yes, I understand. I understand. It doesn’t really happen. It is not a true thing. Even if the whole world believes, it is not at all true. It is their own illusion, their own imagination, and they try to fool themselves, and they try to fool others. That is all.

Same questioner:

Thank you. 

Questioner:

What is the source of thought?

Babaji:

Consciousness. Because consciousness has energy in it, then consciousness is also able to be creative. This, in a smaller way I had told, mind has the ability to imagine. And don’t consider this ability to imagine as an ordinary thing. It’s a great power, that it is able to create. 

The same imagination we try to call it in a higher sense as creativity. Depending on this creativity only the whole World, Universe is running. Everybody trying to be creative, innovative, and want to do something, and they want to do. 

So to be creative itself is not a problem. But if you lose control over that creativeness, and you are unable to stop it when it is needed to be stopped, that’s when the problem arises. So the source is consciousness, you are the source of your thoughts. Final definition.

Same Questioner:

Is there a causal connection with thought? What makes it arise from consciousness?

Babaji:

Just like that it arises. 

Same Questioner:

Spontaneously.

Babaji:

Spontaneously. 

Like some clue example I have given. Suppose you had a very sound sleep in the night, good. And in the morning you are very refreshed mentally, at peace. You might be sipping a cup of coffee or something like that. Suddenly unknown to you the mind starts imagining. 

In the beginning it tries to imagine all the pleasant things, nobody wants unpleasantness. But slowly if it is left to go like that one, as the day passes by it starts imagining happiness, unhappiness, good and bad, like that it gets involved into dualities. So in the beginning, spontaneously it simply came because of the presence of the energy that is in it. 

So to avoid this, all the time you are to practice that you are in yourself. 

Yes, purifying the acquired habits of the Mind.

Same Questioner:

So, we can do that in meditation, but should we also practice that in our daily life, just not thinking of ourself as being the person or the body and the mind?

Babaji:

That also. Apart from that when you are active in the world, so you just go on accepting as the results come. Means, you want to do something, and then whatever happens – they both are combined, keep happening in the life. You go on doing, and the things happening. You go on doing, and things happening. Do you understand this point? So, when the things happening, keep quiet, let it happen. You go on doing. A thing happened. Then you accept it. That means keep quiet. So that’s it.

Same Questioner:

Yeah, so the key, that acceptance, you recommend that often. And basically, that means you don’t have to deal with it, there’s no need to analyze or judge it, just drop it.

Babaji:

Just drop it. [both Babaji and the questioner chuckling]

Same Questioner:

Okay.

Questioner:

Baba, thank you again so much for being with us, it’s a special treat, a wonderful thing in our practice. 

About fifteen months ago, my wife passed away and it was a very difficult experience for me. And Your advice to me was to send her my love, and help her mind to become quiet. So, for over a year now, when I think about her, I’ve tried to do just that, send her my love and help her mind to become quiet. 

But I still am struggling so much with the emotions of sadness and grief and loss, it’s such a painful experience. So my question to You is, all those years that we spent together, living together, loving each other, is that also part of the minds imagination, is understanding that, would that help me some?

Babaji:

Yeah you see, always past is only in the memory. Future also in the mind’s imagination. The present is peaceful, all the time. So presently, you have to see that the mind is in the present, then you will have the peace. If at all you want to remember the past, all those years you were together, try to remember all the pleasant moments, all the friendly moments that you both had. You don’t have to feel sad, you will feel that she is still with you. That is in the present, then you will have peace. So you have to think like this. 

Simply by becoming sad, you cannot make the past to become in the come back into the present. Under no circumstances it will come back. Instead, you pray for the departed soul, let it go on its journey towards the Divinity. I must not recollect or try to draw her back for my personal selfishness. So like that you start thinking, then slowly your mind will feel a little bit shame, “Oh, I’m very selfish, I must not do like this. I must not be sad. She wouldn’t like me to be sad. She would like me to be happy.” If you are happy, she’s happy. If you are happy that’s what she wants, like that you think, see the reason then you will be able to overcome the sadness and you won’t allow your mind to become a casualty unnecessarily.

Same Questioner:

Thank you Baba. I appreciate that. Thank you very much.

Babaji:

You’re welcome.

Questioner:

Hello Babaji, and thank You for Your love and your words of peace. I wonder, am I furthering my tendency to have illusions by using my mind to think of world peace, and to wish well for others, and all of that? Is there any good to that, or is it just making me feel comfortable with creating illusions?

Babaji:

You see, if at all you feel like thinking like that, convert it into a prayer to the Divine, “May there be peace for all beings in all the worlds. May they have happiness. May they have sense of wisdom and proper inspiration. May the humanity learn to live for each other, instead of being against each other. Please, bless all the humanity my Lord, so that the humanity may trust each other.” That’s what is missing today, isn’t it? 

So you convert it, then it will be a positive thought, and it won’t be troublesome for you. Then slowly practice meditation also side by side. It will be alright.

Same Questioner:

That’s a wonderful solution. And I also wonder, visualizing peace and visualizing all positive things, is there anything wrong with that?

Babaji:

Yeah, nothing, until you are able to achieve total silence in the mind, you can visualize, there’s no harm in it. Just visualize all human beings are happy, they are loving each other, they are living only for each other, all conflicts have come to an end, there is no weapon system that exists in the world, there is no need for any weapon at all. Everybody is safe and secure. Everybody is happy and contented. God has given everything to everybody.

Same Questioner:

Alright. Agreed.

Questioner:

Hello Babaji, thank You again for being with us. My question is, we talk a lot about imagination. And I know that when I worry about something… but the quote that I heard comes up where it says, I forget who said it, but, ‘Worry is a misuse of imagination.’ And I understand that that takes me out of the present moment, where I’m worrying about something from the past or something that might happen in the future. But as a creative person, as a musician, I’m wondering what your thoughts are on the good, positive parts of imagination, or maybe tying in a little bit to what Vita just asked, like how can we manifest something from our imagination that’s helpful or beautiful?

Babaji:

Yeah. So, if you can be more practical in your imagination. Practical mean, just see now and tomorrow, now and the future, what is possible for you. So you try to do that one. If anything made you to hurt or feel hurt or made you to worry about the past, let’s forget about it because it’s not going to come back. But the future will come back to the present. So if you work in the present, you can make a better future for yourself. 

If you are a musician, try to practice more music, or try to compose some good music, which can be very helpful. Whatever is possible for you practically, you try to do that one, then you can overcome the worries, you will feel more happy, contented, and proud about you.

Same Questioner:

Excellent, thank you so much.

Same questioner:

Hi Babaji. After we die, where do we go? I mean, do we just disappear?

Babaji:

No, you see, just now, you exist as the mind, that is also known as the soul, infinite form, and this body is there. Mind is in touch with the reflections of the brain. So it is acquiring habits, imprints, thought processes that are happening. 

So when death happens, the brain dies, it stops functioning, then the mind is forced to get detached from the brain’s reflections. Now, mind is holding imprints – if it is holding imprints, thoughts which form as attitude, intensity of thoughts – based on that it assumes next incarnation, next birth. 

Just like in this birth, you were born like this. In the same way it will be born again, based on its own attitude, and intensity of thought, it will get to see another such world. The mind spins and assumes another body, another birth, another world, and other things come along. 

So whatever you have practiced in this life will come to your rescue and help to shape your personality, to shape your attitude and observation capacity, and the things that you come across. 

Like for example, to come across a Self Realized Yogi. In the previous lives something good you would have tried to do definitely, that’s why you have been blessed to come towards the Truth of spirituality. Like that it will continue, until you don’t achieve total silence of the mind. 

The meditation is taught so that you achieve total silence of the thoughts. When the mind becomes totally silent it is Pure Consciousness. At that time when death happens, the brain dies, the consciousness gets detached from the brain and merges with the Ultimate Truth that is All-Pervaded – we also call it as Divinity, God. You merge with that one, and you exist in Supreme Peace. You will not disappear. You are the Eternal Entity. 

That’s what we try to teach always. You are much beyond the birth and death of the physical body, you are an Eternal Entity, you always are there, and that is your existence right, to have Supreme Peace. As long as you don’t get involved in physical bodies of any type, you will remain in the Divinity, in Supreme Peace.

Same Questioner:

Thank you Babaji. 

Questioner:

So Baba, it’s just the imagined self, imagining yourself as a person that causes you to…

Babaji:

Reborn, rebirth, reincarnation.

Same Questioner:

And so You’ve mentioned that attitude and intensity is what carries forward into the next birth, and You’ve said specifically that memories do not, you know of our life – those die with the brain. But yet these attitudes, and the intensities of our attitudes go forward. What exactly do you mean by that, what are the attitudes, what would be examples of attitudes?

Babaji:

You see I have spoken this as a basic nature that forms when a person is born in a physical body. So such a person’s observation capacity, thinking capacity, understanding capacity all differ from child to child. Like when parents have different children they will try to look after all children equally, but different children pick up different temperaments, understanding. Based on that their personality gets shaped, and they go towards that path slowly. 

See for example, after being born in this world, you are in the world also but slowly to turn towards the spirituality, spiritual truths. This is what the attitude you have been bringing from your previous lives. If you were doing some sort of sadhana to quieten the mind, or to understand the reality – that you are bringing. So that is what is carried forward. 

But you don’t remember where you were born in the previous life exactly, where is that location? Impossible, that is not truth. If anybody claims or tells that I can tell you, “You were this in your previous life,” they are all false and myths only. Only this attitude is carried forward, the rest is forgotten. Due to the death of the brain, that memory what was you in your previous life, were you a human being or an animal, or man or woman or what it was, all you have forgotten. But you are carrying on the characteristics, that which has formed your actual personality. That’s what I tried to tell.

Same Questioner:

So Baba, does that mean that the conclusions that we take away from life experiences, you know how for people our basic attitude will be how we conclude.

Babaji:  

Yeah, that’s what are the judgments. I keep telling, the mind recognizes, analyzes and makes a judgment, and absorbs that imprint as a habit. That’s what becomes the acquired habits of the mind.

Same Questioner:

And so based on our attitude, or…

Babaji:

Yeah, this word also is good, it concludes, “This is it”, so that sits in the mind. It concludes, “This is mango”, and that sits in the mind.

Same Questioner:

So our basic attitude determines our judgments and our samskaras that guide us through life.

Babaji:

Yeah. So that will determine your journey, whether you are going back to Divinity, or you’re getting sucked back into the world too much, what you are going to do. It all depends on you, your attitude. That’s why the company of the noble, good, and sadhana of meditation to quieten the mind, is all recommended. And that’s so important. 

An opportunity is given when you are a human being, if you can quieten your mind you go to Divinity. Forget about ghosts, and pasts and pastas and and this and that, everything. [laughs]

End of Session